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#40646 - 07/24/13 11:29 AM First Time
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another new thread inspired by jip...
let's remember in this one that it may not be appropriate to announce how young you were if you were under age where ever you live?
just share with us the 'first time' in whatever detail you're comfortable with.
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#40650 - 07/24/13 11:56 AM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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I think I've told my story on here before, but it's fun to relive that moment ...

I was 19 years old, a sophomore at the University of Arizona. I had fooled around in high school, but I had made a conscious decision not to give it up until I was in college. I was ready and looking for it during my freshman year at the university, but just didn't find the "right" boy.

Then I started dating this fellow during summer classes before my sophomore year, an engineering major from California (I always did go for slightly nerdy guys ... still do, in fact). He was very sweet, cute in an "engineering major" sort of way, and it wasn't long before I decided he would be the one.

So we were sitting on the living room floor of my apartment one night, listening to music. It was 1984, and I remember we spent some time talking about the novel, 1984, and then at some point we started making out and he got my clothes off.

I should point out that he was a virgin too, so it was kinda like the blind leading the blind, but you know ... you just do what comes naturally ...

When it came time to actually enter me, that poor boy was so keyed up that he ejaculated the absolute instant his penis touched me. I felt this stuff all over my thigh and at first I thought he'd peed on me, but then it dawned on me what had happened. It was very awkward. He was mortified, and I had no idea what to say.

But we somehow glossed over the moment and continued to make out. Then later on that evening, he tried again, and it worked this time smile

It's legion that it's supposed to hurt the first time for girls, but mine was fine. He was gentle and slow, and for that I'm grateful. I admit it was a rather strange sensation at first, but it wasn't long before I was quite enjoying it.

I still enjoy it, almost 30 years later.
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#40703 - 07/27/13 06:53 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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My first time was with someone I didn't expect. Not really sure how it ended up that way-- but it did.

Me and my friend ran into two guys we knew from school-- its a very small school. Everyone knew everyone else.

We both were in cadillacs. We ended up parked in a corn field and I was in one car with a guy and my friend in the other (my car). The guy I was with was the my High School Principals son and it was his Cadillac!

We were kissing and making out and it just 'kinda happened'. Yeah, I know- it usually doesn't just happen. But it really seemed that way. It just flowed into that.

I was 19 like Carole and he was younger. But he definitely was more experienced then I was. Also like Carole- it didn't hurt me either and I only spotted a little bit later after it. I think my hymen was probably mostly torn already due to possibly years of riding horses or maybe a motorcycle accident I was in.

I don't regret it at all. It wasn't really awkward and there were no complicated feelings about it except that at the time I thought I was going to wait until marriage. lol That didn't last.

He passed away several years ago now from leukemia. Its strange to think because when I knew him, he was young and strong and great at sports.

We never got together again and that was fine. We still talked and saw each other, but that was it. It worked good for both of us.


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#40706 - 07/28/13 08:27 AM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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My initiated thread so my (part) initiation:

My first time was actually just an attempt but it was meant to be my first time.
I was 17 and she was just 16.
The ages are sexually legal in UK.
It actually happened after her 16th birthday party, so just legal.
The 'lead up' is not even clear in my memory but the result still is.
Sufficient to say that until that night there had only been over the clothes fumbling.

It was a complete disaster, physically and emotionally, for us both.
Neither of us had had any sexual education and I'd never seen a naked girl except in 'health & efficiency' magazines smuggled into school where the sexual bits were airbrushed out.
Most of my (and others in school) masturbatory images had been virtually fully clothed underwear ads.
The sight of a really naked girl wasn't only super arousing but also a shock.
I think the sight of a very erect penis was a great shock to her, from the expression I remember on her face.
I knew girls had nipples but I never knew that they stood out.
I didn't know (totally ignorant) that they had pubic hair and oh my God, didn't she have pubic hair, she was half Italian and it was thick and black.
I had no idea at all how I was suppose to 'deal' with these things, all I knew was that I was suppose to get my very rampant cock into her and was very eager to do so.
After a very few squeezes of her breasts, although these were even more exciting, I didn't want to waste time, I wanted to tried to do what I thought I was suppose to.
And although she was 'co-operative' she was as ignorant as me, although looking back not as keen.
We automatically, instinctively, almost took up the missionary position and without any exploration or preparation on my part I tried to thrust in, and thrust is the right word.
All my super-sensitive knob hit was a very uncomfortable tangle of pubic hair, then a shaft bending, painful bone, then her belly.
Realising that things might be better if she opened her legs she did and I got between them and we, or rather I, tried again.
This time my thrust did manage to penetrate the bush but it was too late.
I had my first 'real' ejaculation and it was stronger and more copious (see other posting) than any that I'd experienced from masturbation.
The first 'lot' went into and onto her pubic bush and as I straightened up at the shock of the sensation the successive productions went from her head to her breasts to her belly.
With me still erect (the power of youth) we, or rather she, tried to clean the 'sticky stuff' off her - the nearest thing being my shirt but I wasn't bothered about anything at that stage and couldn't have cared less.
In my eagerness (and selfishness) I persuaded her to let me try again.
This time she was even less keen having seen all 'my stuff' but agreed.
This time the position was better but the results weren't.
My (inconsiderate) thrust took the head and a little of my shaft into a completely unprepared virgin.
We both yelled out with pain, me from the very painful effect on my cock and her from it's effect on her.
Hastily withdrawing, for my sake and not just hers I rolled off her.
She was crying and I admit so was I, now at realizing that I had hurt her and also at my 'failure to be a man' and have my first fuck.
With hardly a word being spoken I dressed, with a still sticky shirt to remind me of my 'failure' and went home.
The relationship ended the next day when she told me she didn't want to see me any more - another failure.

My first full penetrative sex took place 2 years later when I was 19, with an 'older' experienced and understanding woman of 39.
She initiated it, literally 'guided' me and 'tutored' me, until I was eventually a 'man'.
God bless that woman and my luck.
We have kept in touch social and (decreasingly) sexually over the years and have many times talked and laughed about the gauche 19 year old lad.

JipTu.

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#40711 - 07/28/13 05:00 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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Sometimes I think it would be better if young men and women were 'initiated' into sex by an older, trusted more experienced person. Like in the 'Clan of the Cave Bear' series.

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#40716 - 07/28/13 07:03 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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I've never done it in a Cadillac! It's gotta be better than in a pickup truck, though grin
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#40730 - 07/29/13 05:54 AM Re: First Time [Re: Firefly]
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Originally Posted By: Firefly
Sometimes I think it would be better if young men and women were 'initiated' into sex by an older, trusted more experienced person. Like in the 'Clan of the Cave Bear' series.


Agree 100% Firefly.

Some so called 'primitive tribes' still practice it.

Believe some 'more developed' societies do it but not so openly.

There would be so much less sexual unhappiness in the world for both sexes and so much more understanding of mutual needs.

I would certainly not have been where I was in my sex life, not only in my 'mechanical knowledge' but in my understanding of other's 'needs', if it had not been for my tutor.
The relationship was slightly frowned on as it was, for the age difference, and if I had been a few years younger then there would have been 'hell to pay' and probable prosecution.

There isn't so much put on age difference today (I think) but under age with older is still taboo - but with sexual development/curiosity/need what is under age?
I stress that I am not advocating paedophilia in any way.

This is an interesting article BUT it takes some reading.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=sexual%20initiation&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CD4QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Faaem.pl%2Ffulltxt.php%3FICID%3D1011065&ei=ZTb2UZDtL4a0POXZgYAO&usg=AFQjCNFwHx7g2sb-1tTagCCR1DnJmbJI7A&bvm=bv.49784469,d.ZWU

Got to admit that I've never fully worked out (and believe me I've tried) how such a basic, necessary thing as sex became such a taboo subject.

We almost all know what the opposite sex has, so why not openly show them, discuss them and all their various workings.
Sex is about the only thing where the older, more experienced don't instruct the younger - from the basics to the intricate and sex is both.

Sexual ignorance/misunderstanding is probably/possibly the most common reason for personal unhappiness.


Love The Clan of The Cave Bear series - just reading the latest now.

JipTu.

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#40731 - 07/29/13 05:59 AM Re: First Time [Re: CaroleTucson]
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Originally Posted By: CaroleTucson
I've never done it in a Cadillac! It's gotta be better than in a pickup truck, though grin


I would have thought the back of a pick-up, on some nice soft hay, under the stars on a warm desert night would be perfect.
Not only for a first time but any time wink

Without the hay maybe not - and in the rain sick

JipTu.

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#40734 - 07/29/13 08:12 AM Re: First Time [Re: JipTu]
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Originally Posted By: JipTu
Got to admit that I've never fully worked out (and believe me I've tried) how such a basic, necessary thing as sex became such a taboo subject.


There may have been a good reason (or a perceived good reason) for the taboo long ago. All human societies have taboos that originated long ago, even if the original reason has been forgotten or no longer exists.

But I agree. On the face of it, it makes no sense for the reproductive function to be such a mystery, and furthermore the source of such shame and guilt. Maybe it originally had something to do with wanting to know who the father was, or something. Who knows?

It's not the only one, though. The workings of the human body have been involved in taboos in the West for centuries. When Michelangelo wanted to dissect cadavers to learn about muscles and skeletons to better sculpt them, he had to do it in secret or risk going to prison.

And it's still considered, at the least, extremely impolite to openly discuss various other bodily functions in most social situations.


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Sexual ignorance/misunderstanding is probably/possibly the most common reason for personal unhappiness.


I believe I've read that it's second on the list of primary causes for marital problems, the first being money.
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#40735 - 07/29/13 08:13 AM Re: First Time [Re: JipTu]
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Originally Posted By: JipTu
Originally Posted By: CaroleTucson
I've never done it in a Cadillac! It's gotta be better than in a pickup truck, though grin


I would have thought the back of a pick-up, on some nice soft hay, under the stars on a warm desert night would be perfect.
Not only for a first time but any time wink


Such a romantic, Jiptu smile
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#40737 - 07/29/13 09:34 AM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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As for being initiated by an older person ... it's not that I necessarily disagree with the idea. I think it makes a certain kind of sense.

However, I have to say that, thinking back when I was 18 or 19, I would have considered the notion of being initiated by some guy in his 30s or 40s or whatever to be creepy as hell.

I suppose if it was the cultural norm, my attitude would have been different. But I like the way it happened, however fumbling and inexperienced it was.
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#40760 - 07/29/13 02:30 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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In the tribes that still practice it, it takes place at puberty, or after the first menstruation.
The male will be taught the 'ways' of penetration by, usually, one of his many 'aunts' and as these tribes 'share' their women this could be a close relation.
The girls again by one of her 'uncles'.
These proceedings will be watched by other 'aunts' & 'uncles'.
Girls will also be taught, by 'aunts', the ways of contraception. These are secret from the men.
All children are 'off the tribe' not 'belonging' to any individuals.

As an aside:
In medieval times the Lord of the Manor had the right to the first night with one of his virgin serfs or peasants when she got married - Droit de Seigneur.
In early times the first night of Monarchy & Aristocrats was observed by officials to ensure that consummation had taken place - as many marriages were arranged for political reasons and it was important that there was no 'get out', none consummation being the only one allowed.
Similarly with births, to ensure that live birth had actually taken place and a 'changeling' hadn't been slipped-in.

JipTu.

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#40777 - 07/29/13 06:23 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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You always mention the Knights shagging people's daughters thing!! Mucky puppy! That's all that 'Robin Hood' myth your brought up with in Sheffield! Sad! He was of course Cumbrian!!


Edited by cumbriankid (07/29/13 06:24 PM)

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#40793 - 07/30/13 09:06 AM Re: First Time [Re: cumbriankid]
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Originally Posted By: cumbriankid
You always mention the Knights shagging people's daughters thing!!


Of course they shagged other peoples daughters they couldn't shag their own - they were wearing chastity belts and the tin opener wasn't invented for a few more hundred years.
Originally Posted By: cumbriankid
That's all that 'Robin Hood' myth you're ( grin) brought up with in Sheffield! Sad! He was of course Cumbrian!!


You're thinking of another guy who robbed from the rich - and kept it. Something like Government.

He did wear similar long boots like our Robin Hood but he wore them for when he 'got lucky' with a sheep smirk

JipTu

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#40805 - 07/30/13 02:00 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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cumbriankid

With my great knowledge of history and complete grasp of gibberish I can tell you there were several Robin Hoods - the hood was just a 'trade mark' registered with the local Sheriffs.

None of them could write so when registering they put a cross, as the sheriff was an educated aristocrat this made him cross, they also promised to pay the registration fee later, which they didn't, which made the sheriffs feel really evil.

The sheriffs put out a circular to other sheriffs to warn them what was going on but as they didn't know any names just described them as "A gang of thieving dicks who wear hoods".

The Boys in the Hood - see, nothings new - did not like this so changed it to the better sounding A gang of Robbing Richard Hoods.
The robbing got misheard by the peasants due to their ears being blocked up from the mud floors they had to sleep on so they called them Robin Hoods.

The Sheffield Robin Hood (Richard, or Dick, or the dick, of Loxley, 4 miles outside Sheffield) was different from all the others.
Being a true Yorkshire Man he applied sound Yorkshire reasoning to the subject.
One day sitting with Maid (or made) Marion he said "We've bin at this fer months and got nowt out or it, we rob from t' rich and gid t' pooha, t' pooha then becum t' rich and wi ha t rob them t' gid it back t' them us originally ownered it, tis bludy stupid, sod it, get thee keks doewn and let us have a reet gud shag.
This didn't go down well with his 'not that way inclined' men so he told them "Go fuck thee selves".
Not bin very bright (some were from Lankashur, some from Kumbriu) they tried but couldn't so tried with each other and the 'merry men' were formed and they skipped off into the forest with a "hey and a gay nonnie no".
A few took up sheep rustling, or that's what they called it - the only rustling was the sound of wool against bellies - their off-spring can be found all over the North West, now known a Lancashire and Cumbria.

It should be noted, as it is not well known, that Marion was also sometimes known as Robin - due to her red breast(s), that rough wool could play havoc in the days before bras and the other Robin's liking for 'sharpening his long sword' there didn't help.

When they heard that King Richard (nobody called him Dick) had been put in prison on his way back from the crusades they all had a 'whip-round', in more ways than one, to pay his bail.
Things improved when he returned and in gratitude for their help in freeing him he made all the Robin Hoods legal, in fact he made them tax collectors - and we're back to robbing dicks.

Disney and others have, in their usual way, totally fucked up the true story.

After writing that I'm not surprised they won't let me have anything sharp in here (they've even taken my crayons away) and think I can't do any damage with a keyboard - well they're wrong I tell you, they're wrong.

JipTu (nurse I think I need to go lie down)


Edited by JipTu (07/30/13 02:23 PM)

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#40807 - 07/30/13 02:56 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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Rough wool on breasts (or whatever)! No thanks!
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#40809 - 07/30/13 04:30 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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Ha! You got me there Jip! I only said he wasn't from Sheffield because it makes Shefies so angry!! You did well not to go 'Completely' mental!

Ahhhh! Robin Hood! A story about the French being horrible to the Brits who are actually German!! A story or a prediction! Who knows!!

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#40826 - 08/01/13 02:13 PM Re: First Time [Re: cumbriankid]
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Originally Posted By: cumbriankid
Ha! You got me there Jip! I only said he wasn't from Sheffield because it makes Shefies so angry!! You did well not to go 'Completely' mental!

laugh laugh laugh

Don't tell anybody but I'm not really a Sheffie, I'm not even a Yorkie - but I've been here so long nobody knows and I don't tell them.
If you're surrounded blend in, blend in.
Have you been accepted yet?????
I come from Derbyshire, the Peak District, where 'Little John' came from wink and I'm not going to go into how he fits into the Rob(b)in Hood story. Sufficient to say he had a quarter staff long enough to have Rob(b)in on his back a few times - oh those merry men (those tights should have been a dead give-away).

Could you please put it on headed paper that I'm not 'Completely mental' - might help at my next review.
Originally Posted By: cumbriankid
Ahhhh! Robin Hood! A story about the French being horrible to the Brits who are actually German!! A story or a prediction! Who knows!!

Haven't you heard about the EU, its been in all the papers?

JipTu.

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#40833 - 08/03/13 07:50 PM Re: First Time [Re: JipTu]
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Originally Posted By: JipTu


I would have thought the back of a pick-up, on some nice soft hay, under the stars on a warm desert night would be perfect.
Not only for a first time but any time wink

JipTu.




Only if there was something over the hay like a blanket. Hay on bare skin isn't all its cracked up to be and definitely not in private cracks and crevices! lol Straw would probably be softer but not smell as wonderful.
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#40836 - 08/03/13 11:06 PM Re: First Time [Re: Firefly]
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Originally Posted By: Firefly
Only if there was something over the hay like a blanket. Hay on bare skin isn't all its cracked up to be and definitely not in private cracks and crevices! lol Straw would probably be softer but not smell as wonderful.


LOL ... you got that right! The stalks and stems of dried alfalfa are not comfortable to sit or lie on.
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#40853 - 08/04/13 12:47 PM Re: First Time [Re: Firefly]
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Originally Posted By: Firefly
Only if there was something over the hay like a blanket. Hay on bare skin isn't all its cracked up to be and definitely not in private cracks and crevices! lol Straw would probably be softer but not smell as wonderful.


Think there might be, a previously unknown to me, language difference here : In the UK hay is the dried product of meadow grass; fine and relatively soft and wonderfully smelling.
Straw here is the dried stalks of any and all wheat products - Wheat, barley, oats, maize (we don't grow alfalfa but it definitely wouldn't come under the heading of hay) - quite thick, not soft, very brittle and prickly.

Heard of 'Hay Rides' in the USA but never 'straw rides'.

JipTu.

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#40868 - 08/05/13 11:37 AM Re: First Time [Re: CaroleTucson]
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Originally Posted By: CaroleTucson
Originally Posted By: Firefly
Only if there was something over the hay like a blanket. Hay on bare skin isn't all its cracked up to be and definitely not in private cracks and crevices! lol Straw would probably be softer but not smell as wonderful.


LOL ... you got that right! The stalks and stems of dried alfalfa are not comfortable to sit or lie on.


yep, hay and bare skin are not compatible!
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#40869 - 08/05/13 12:01 PM Re: First Time [Re: biker_061]
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Mmmm scratchy.....
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#40888 - 08/06/13 10:08 AM Re: First Time [Re: lilmissnaughty]
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Originally Posted By: lilmissnaughty
Mmmm scratchy.....


yes...but not in a good way wink
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