This reminds me of a conversation I accidently overheard in the office many years ago between two guys who didn't realize I was sitting in the next cubicle. They started out by discussing which of the women in the company they would most like to see naked, which I thought was kinda amusing in an adolescent sort of way (I came in third on their list, by the way ... "her tits are too small", they said).

Then they started talking about what sexual activities they might enjoy with these women, including me. They speculated on who was "better" at what ... ranking us, so to speak. As if they could possibly know. It got rather vulgar, I have to say. I finally made a show of getting up and walking out of the room. I didn't let on that I'd heard them talking, but it was obvious that I had.

For several days afterward, they tiptoed around me like I was made of glass. I dunno what they thought I was gonna do, but I'm sure they were more careful from then on.

I'll point out that these guys were in their early 20's.

The point of this is that judging people on the basis of some physical characteristic -- whose tits are better, whose dick is bigger -- is a silly, immature game, and placing any credence on it is a waste of time.

Especially oral, I think. You might not think giving a blowjob would be all that difficult, but getting it just right is not necessarily easy. And some guys get pretty exasperated if you don't do it just the way they like.

Some complaints I've heard and a few I've voiced myself are:

"He used to stick it in me while I was sleeping."

"He would make like a wombat- eats, roots, shoots and leaves." (root is Australian for f@ck)

"He would be too demanding."

"He was too selfish."

"The foreplay was too mechanical."

"He would cum too soon."

"He would take forever to cum."

"He wouldn't support his own weight when on top."....

I have never heard or made a complaint about the size of a man's penis.

pinkflames, those are some of the same complaints I have also heard and said myself. And you're right, not one of them is about penis size.

If you men want to worry about something- then worry more about being unselfish and about respecting her. Even if its only about sex, women appreciate being respected. And if you don't respect her and are selfish, believe me, some woman you do respect and want a relationship with, may hear about it and think unfavorably about you.

Heres some other complaints I've heard and said:

"He didn't take the time for foreplay."

"He was mashing around trying to find my clit- and couldn't find it (and never asked)."

"He was too rough."

"He didn't care about me."

"He couldn't get out fast enough, once it was over."

"He won't even talk to me now"

"He only wants to see me when he wants sex" (nothing wrong with that, as long as BOTH partners know thats all it is)

"He ignores me in public." (very humiliating when its someone you've given your body to)

"He thinks because hes so hot and/or has a big penis-- that he doesn't need to do anything else." (only penis-related comment)

"He's too routine"

"He doesn't know how to kiss" (guys-- a lot of women really appreciate good kissing-- you can have all the sex skills in the world- but if you don't know how to kiss, women most likely won't think of you as a stellar lover)


etc....etc....etc.....
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Carole-- those guys at the office were probably worried you would turn them in!

OK... This is what my wife said directly to me.I pointed out how small my flaccid penis.I told her what most guys look like.She agreed with me that my flaccid was"small but it grows up into a monster." Ha! Some monster. A 4.5 and the majority of the time only 4" I left it at that.If she wants to think that then good for us. But she did have about 3 partners. One she didn't have sex with, and one of those two was an unsuccessful attempt because they were both virgins and couldn't get it to fit in.But one of her serious boyfriends that she didn't have sex with because of the culture she said was huge.So she definitely has seen a big one. I asked her what she did do with the big one that she was afraid to let him try
to have sex with, and she said that he used to masturbate on her stomach.I don't know any more than that but he had to have slid it on her stomach in the missionary position.Also she had to have given him hand jobs, but no blow jobs because she doesn't like it.But if she insists that my penis grows into a monster, I'd take that complement anytime.

Maybe it is classified information in which women don't like to discuss with men.

Women don't even discuss if with other women. It is not important compared the other complaints I've listed.

Good point. And my wife doesn't even make it to your list of complaint because of other things that are more important.
How can I be worried about having a small penis if I have totally forgotten to take the garbage out. Taking garbage out is really part of sex because if there is negativity during the day, she won't even get to your list.

For a very long time, I avoided pursuing sex because I thought I was too small. As a result, I lost my virginity at a very late age (probably in the lower 5% of "normal aged"). This, I have to conclude was due to a few things... one being that I grew up in a family that did not discuss anything let alone sex(!), and most - if not all - of my information on sex came from porn! Now, what do you think seeing THOSE guys in action did to my self-confidence and size worries!

Anyway, don't be ashamed or anything just because you're not huge. I'm "average" and have never had any complaints from my... "handful" of partners. I know it's a painful and nerve-racking issue - penis size. But just be a good guy and girls will like you and you'll do fine in the bedroom.

Good post JDANG! Thank you for sharing your experience.

Always glad to help.

Btw... you never gave your "final answer" on my pics.

Hate to put a downer on your advice, but your average in length but actually very big girtwise (5.75). You're a decent size, they guy who started this thread isn't.

Hate to put a downer on your advice, but your average in length but actually very big girtwise (5.75). You're a decent size, they guy who started this thread isn't.


Well, thanks for the compliment.... I guess I was referring to how I FELT about myself. Maybe, if this guy could feel better about himself - as I eventually did... for the most part - then he'd be ok.

^ just checked out your pics. definitely 'upper average' to 'above average'. i don't think you have anything to worry about, nor should you have ever had anything to worry about!

Well thank you, jetsetter.

Hmmm....was I supposed to?!

I know what could happen.The girl would say to the guy with the 8" dick that her mouth is try and that she is thirsty and could he please go down to the store and get her a 2 liter of diet coke.Then his confidence would kick in and he would answer
with a romantic answer,"Kiss my butt.You want something,get it yourself."
The guy with the smaller penis would be asked the same favor,"I'm super thirsty because of the great sexual experiece that we both had.Could you please go down to the store and get me a 2 liter bottle of diet coke."
The guy with the smaller penis and confidence would say,"Well I would like to but there are a couple of girls that work there
that used to be my girlfriend that I had to broke up with. But if you have a blender, I can make you a smoothie almost as good
as the one we just did."

I hope you weren't referring to me because I back up my facts with medically documented information.
The information you get from the internet usually involves
condom company who has invested in penis enlargement. 4.0 to 5.5 is the usual range that guys are in. I use a 4.0 iron.
I use it when my wife wants to play with my golf balls. She alway kisses my golf balls before we play. She likes the 4.0 iron. She says that she won't get stuck in any traps. We both like to win, so when we both use the 4.0" and we both win. I can't explain in words how great it feels when we win.I can't say that it is better than sex because it is sex.
If you are totally screwup with your size and are really depressed about it, PM me.I'm one of those big 4.5"x 4.0 girth.
My motto is, There is more than one way to skin a cat".How come my cats all turned out to be dogs in cat's clothing. Skinning is rather kinky and I'm after 35 years of skinning,I am convinced that it is dangerous to skin a cat and leave your testicles out and exposed. I was so close to being a female soprano but my PCP did something with my prostate and I could I lost he upper range of my vocal chords.
I really recommend always using a prostate cup when playing.
It protects you if one of those cats turns out to be a dog.

I was referring to the OP, he's about the same as you. To be honest I don't know what the real average size is. I've read five separate studies. One said between 5-7, the other 5.1-5.7, the other 5.5-6.5 another said between 5-6 and another was 4.6-5.9 with 5.2 being the average. I've never read of four being considered average, but maybe it is, who knows? I'm guessing also, it depends which race was used in these studies. If we're doing a worldwide statistics then it probably is nearer to 4 or 5 because you have China and India, the two most populated countries in the world, and the Asian races are supposedly smaller then caucasians or black.