This is not a wind up. Should a woman really be considered shallow for admitting she has a preference for a certain size of penis? I don't think so. And before anybody goes on I'm average sized. I think if a woman is honest and says she prefers an 8 inch penis then that's her choice, as long as she is not nasty to smaller guys then I don't see an issue. I myself have a preference when it comes to hair. I prefer brunettes and black haired girls, I prefer C cup breasts over any other breast size. But I'd never ditch someone if they didn't fit that criteria, but that is what I like.

So us men have our choices, what we like and dislike, so women deserve the same.

The only issue I have is when extremely unattractive women (or man) demand a guy with a ripped body or huge dick. It's okay to have a preference, but to demand a certain body part, you better be outstanding looking yourself.

I think it's fine for any woman to prefer anything she wants, as long as it isn't hurtful to someone else.

I think there are plenty of women who do prefer large cocks, just as their are plenty who prefer a little smaller than average. My guess is that 2/3 prefer average sizes. Its all about what's arousing, what fits tight without being painful, and what pushes the right buttons.

I think it is pretty shallow when women try to humiliate men by making derogatory remarks about their penis size, or comparing them unfavorably to ex's, which some are want to do when they are pissed off.

I would guess that those women who really have a preference for 8+ inch long dicks are frequently dissapointed unless they have been able to latch onto one permanently. Unless they have seen the guy naked and aroused before, or unless they have inside information, there is only about a 3% chance that their prospective partner will have one when the shorts come down.

I suppose there are some women who prefer a large dick, but I don't think most do. If they do, then they need not be derogatory or nasty to men who aren't their preferred size. I also think, that some women who claim to have to have a big one- usually do so to sound sexually confident and assertive among their peers.

Some of the most demanding women when it comes to big dicks- oftentimes are actually the least experienced sexually.

You're right that we do all have are preferences-- but I do think some preferences-- at their core can be perceived as shallow.

I don't quite get this part of your post bane:

"The only issue I have is when extremely unattractive women (or man) demand a guy with a ripped body or huge dick. It's okay to have a preference, but to demand a certain body part, you better be outstanding looking yourself"

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Are you saying that huge dicks are such a plus- that only a person whos attractive should have them? I'm just trying to clarify. It sounds like you are saying that big dicks really are the be-all end-all and if someone doesn't reach a certain level of attractiveness, then they don't deserve it.

Come on-- big dicks aren't so great that they are some kind of prize given to only hot people. You are speaking on the premise that big dicks are special, and "outstanding" to everyone-- so only special "beautiful" people should have it.


And really, if you want to get down to it-- there are a lot of very UNattractive men out there with big dicks. Have you ever watched porn? Some of the biggest dicked men, really aren't that attractive. Like someone else on here said-- theres a reason you don't see their faces much.

Maybe they should lop big dicks off of men who aren't really attractive-- because they should only have them if they are outstanding themselves. lol!

A woman who demands a big dicked guy needs to be attractive herself. Likewise the same with a man, if you unattractive then you should stop with such high demands. I'm not on about people who have a preference, I'm on about those who demand it.

For example, I browsed one of those dating sites where that want a guy 7 inches or longer. Out of 200 profiles I only found four that really genuinely good looking, the rest looked average looking or hidious and could do with losing some weight. I don't say that out of bitterness, just that only a really small minority of the population has a big dick, which means for anybody to demand this, you better be attractive yourself. There is a diffrence between having a preference and demanding something. For example, I prefer dark haired gils like I mentioned, but I wouldn't just limit myself to wanting to date girls with dark hair. Same goes with girls, If you prefer a guy to have a big dick that's fine, but to demand it, you better look outsatnding.

At the original question: let's look at it this way; does having a breast size preference make a man shallow? The answer to that question is analogous to this one.



As if the opinions of a dating site are representative to women as a whole...



Er, people want what they want - to hell with prerequisites. And if they have the will to get it, they can obtain it, limits be damned. And what people find attractive differs for each person. There are plenty of ways to get what you want.

And where did I say this was the case?

We all have preferences in most things in life. I like my steak medium rare to rare. My wife likes it medium. We can't be faulted for the preferences we have, they key point here is that we don't critisize or get nasty with those who don't meet those preferences. I like smaller breasts but I wouldn't critisize a girl for large breasts or automatically count her out if I was looking for a girlfriend.

I agree with bane, good points man

You're not getting my point bane-- a lot of big dicked men aren't particularly attractive-- and will not get beautiful women simply because they have a big dick.

They can demand all the beautiful women they want to share their big dick with, but that doesn't mean they will get them! They may only be able to get a woman who isn't an example of physical perfection-- so all those supposedly ugly women you are talking about-- have a good chance at making their big-dicked fantasy come true! lol!

Your whole premise is that only attractive women can demand big dicks. Well, believe me, most attractive women will not choose a man just because he has a big dick either.

I can't remember where it was discussed, but some time ago- on a womans forum,( not Aphrodite) it was brought up about if women would have sex with a man who wasn't attractive just because he had a big dick. The majority response, to paraphrase, was "Ewwwe.. NO!"

So I don't understand why you think a big dick is such a gift to a woman. If the man attached to it isn't worth something- then who cares if hes got a big one.

Which I did mention on one of my other threads.



Depends how ugly you're talking here. And that's not the point, someone with such a high demand should get their own house in order first. If you're a fat chick and you refuse to date a guy with an average or small penis, then I suggest you lose some weight (that isn't aimed at you firefly).



That's right, I believe you should be attractive before you demand a guy to be hung big. And I know not all women are the same, a lot of attractive women want more then just a big dicked guy. Everybody has a different list of priorities, and most women wouldn't put penis size top of the list.



I guess it depends how ugly the man is and also if a women has a preference for penis size or not.



Because a big dick is rare and it's not something you can do much about if you don't have one. There's jelquing that's supposed to work, but if your really small you'll never get big, and that's just how it is. It's not like breasts, where a women can get breast enlargement. So someone who demands to be with someone only with a big dick, needs to have a look at themselves and see if they measure up in the looks department.

...or go and find a man of your dreams that actually likes curvaceous ladies. There's plenty of them and some might actually have a big dick.

you're right pinkflames! And I give up, because bane just doesn't seem to understand what I was saying.

There's a difference between curvaceous and fat.

Even so, there's a heck of a lot of hot looking guys that lust after "fat" ladies.

What happened to "how you use it" as opposed to "how big it is"?

Well, I guess unless the guy is really under endowed...

But I would imagine that within "normal" parameters, it is how you use what you have is what counts.

I won't go into personal details here.

I'm not sure many guys that lust after someone who's obese or morbidly obese.

That wasn't the point of this thread. The point was, a women isn't shallow if she prefers a big penis. I'd only consider her shallow if she bases a large penis top of the list of priorities and refuses to date someone who's average or small.

I understand what you're saying, I don't agree. Anybody who DEMANDS that someone must look or have a certain perfect bodypart, better be good looking themselves otherwise they're making an ass of themselves. But, having a preference for a certain bodypart is different, everybody has this, but to demand it, and refuse to date someone because they don't meet your standards ( in otherwords small breasts or small penis) is very shallow, and you better be good looking yourself to be that shallow or you're a hypocrite.

Ok bane-- then men who have big dicks and demand beautiful women, must also be attractive as well.

The thing you seem to be saying, is that a big dick is such a gift to women, that less then perfect women need not apply. You are coming across to me-- as laying it out that because big dicks are so rare, only beautiful women can demand them.

My point is, what good is a big dick, if it isn't attached to an appealing man? A big dick isn't such a prize- no matter how rare it is-- if the man its hanging from isn't worth it. Just because a man has a big dick- theres no guarantee that beautiful women will want him because of it.

Let me put it this way-- it can go both ways. You're saying a not-so-stellar looking woman can't demand a big dick. I'm saying a not-so-stellar looking/acting man can't demand beautiful women just because he has a big dick. Whats there to disagree with? I'm just following your lead on this one.

You want a woman to "measure up in the looks dept" in order to "demand" a big penis. I'm saying that a man has to "measure up in the personality, character and looks dept" in order to "demand" a beautiful woman as well. Now I'm not saying I agree with your premise- but its the only way I can try to get through to you what I'm trying to say. Its a two-way street.

No matter how big a mans penis is-- he better have something to back it up if hes trying to attract ANY woman. A big dick is not such a prize to most women that they will not take into account anything but his dick.

I guarantee-- if a mans just posting his big dick pic on some site like you were talking about, then demands only stunning women apply-- that most, if not all, of the women replying, will not be what hes expecting.

You can't come at this issue from a males perspective- you have to look at it as a female. Its doubtful that any really stunning women would jump him just because hes sporting a big one. maybe a very few-- but not many.

Ok, so we agree that demanding and rejecting people based on superficial qualities is shallow.

So... you are saying that being hot gives you a right to demand things that other people find shallow? I'm OK with knowing that this is your attitude with things, fine. But you are wording this seems to be passing this off as a universal law that you have observed from reality.

While hot people do get away with lots of things, objectively, anyone who is superficial is shallow. Hell, being shallow is classified as a stereotype for hot people. Hot people may think they are above these rules, but they are not. I'm not sure how anyone would not see this.

And being hot doesn't automatically make someone a shallow person, nor are all average/unattractive people virtuous and un-shallow. You can't tell people that they have a right to be shallow or not - it's an attitude, something that people just do.

Tell you what, I demand to be the king-warlord of North America, with a massive, mechanized slave army at my disposal and a small harem of beautiful, smart women to bear my children and lead my country - and there is nothing you can do to change that attitude unless I do it myself. What I want is my business, as are how I go about achieving it and how I accept the consequences. Thinking like this is not a right, it's something I just do and can do.

Now, let me be the first to say that I'm sorry if it seems like everyone on this forum is against you. That's not the case, somethings just seem ill-defined. These are good points you bring out here, and I'm all for free speech. Let this place not be like North Korea or Cuba, where everyone has to follow the status quo or be shut down.