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#10200 - 07/07/09 01:05 AM I have been masturbating frequently
davidjohnson Offline
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Registered: 06/29/09
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Please help! I’m 28 years old and have been masturbating frequently for as long as I remember (13 years),on average I'm guessing at least twice a day sometimes less or more. The problem I am facing over the past (8) years or so it has been very difficult to achieve an erection.I've had weak/soft erections on a regular basis, while mastrubating.I am a Virgin. I am worrying about my post marriage sexual relationship because of this erectile dysfunction.

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#10201 - 07/07/09 02:51 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: davidjohnson]
mugwump1 Offline
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Well first, don't panic, I very much doubt that you've suffered any permanent harm. Masturbation's physically harmless to the tissues, but it could be that with such frequency over a long period your body's just becoming less aroused by it. Maybe you need to cut down on it (perhaps make it a twice-weekly treat?) until your potency's restored. When it comes to a partner, all those jaded arousal centres should kick in afresh, so I think you'll be ok.
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#10203 - 07/07/09 03:00 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: davidjohnson]
Grifter Offline
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Registered: 01/21/09
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I'm 22, and I've had weak/soft erections on a regular basis for 2 years (and I also started masturbating at about the same age--14). Sounds like we have the same problem.

My erectile dysfunction was diagnosed as a venous leak, although that's not a certain diagnosis because I haven't undergone tests like a penile doppler ultrasound or a corpus cavernosogram to confirm it. But it's pretty clear that my ED is of organic, rather than psychological, origin, because I no longer have nocturnal erections and my morning erections, when present, are also weak/soft. I also no longer have any spontaneous erections, and mental stimulation can rarely induce an erection--I almost always require physical stimulation, too.

Your ED could be related to a variety of factors. It may be due to smoking, diabetes, high cholesterol, low testosterone, high prolactin levels, or a number of other reasons--I can't say, because I don't know your medical history. But since you're affected at such a young age, like me, it may well be a venous leak. In layman's terms, this means that, when the blood flows into your penis to induce an erection, there's nothing to stop it from flowing back out. Hence, a soft/weak erection. Many things can cause a venous leak--I'm guessing an injury while playing soccer caused mine.

I don't know what country you're from, but I haven't had much luck with the American health care system. I visited a urologist, who promptly prescribed me Viagra and ushered me out of his office. It didn't work at all (I also tried Levitra and Cialis). Then he recommended I try a penis pump. I did a test and it yielded an embarrassingly poor erection--even worse than I'd get through masturbation. Beyond that, I don't think he has any solution for me.

American physicians are notoriously dogmatic, and the urologists are no different. A 1996 study in the Journal of Urology concluded that performing venous surgery on the penis is useless, almost without exception, because the surgery's effects tend to wear off after a couple of years and ED recurs. Thus, if American urologists are going to perform surgery for ED, it's most likely to shove an inflatable silicon rod in your cock. But f*ck that noise; I'm not going down that route. Ever.

But fear not! Not all hope is lost. In fact, I'm pinning my hopes on one doctor, the only doctor in the world who advocates penile venous surgery and who apparently has fantastic success rates. His name is Geng-Long Hsu. You can read about him in a New York Times best-seller by Mary Roach. It's titled Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex. Luckily, you can view the relevant chapter for free on Google Books here.

One excerpt from the book reads as follows:

Quote:
Why would Dr. Hsu be able to cure so many men, when other competent urologists who undertake the procedure have seen, for the most part, only short-term benefits for their patients? "I can't for the life of me answer that question," says Gerry Brock. "I've seen Geng's surgery, and he does a good job. He's an honest guy, a great guy. But I have a hard time understanding, from a physiologic basis, how his results can be so distinctly different from those of others." One possibility is that Taiwanese patients are more polite--or more timid--than Western patients. Perhaps Dr. Hsu's patients are hesitant to report that the surgery's effects are fading.

Then again, the possibility exists that no one who does this technique is as good at it as Dr. Hsu. Few urologists seem as lovingly immersed in the anatomy of the penis as Geng-Long Hsu. He publishes papers on the tunica, the deep dorsal vein, the distal ligament. He has a standing order for "leftovers" at the anatomy department of Taiwan Adventist Hospital: "Please give all the penises to me."


The man is no slouch. He has been published over 100 times in different respected medical journals, including the Journal of Urology and the Journal of Andrology. One article of note: The Progression of the Penile Vein: Could it be Recurrent?

You can view his homepage here: http://www.glhsu.org/, and you can view more about venous stripping surgery (and even watch videos of Dr. Hsu performing it) here.

Here's my advice: Go see a local endocrinologist, not a urologist. They'll take different blood samples and determine if it's something OTHER than a venous leak. If nothing else is wrong with you, visit a radiologist and get a corpus cavernosogram, which will allow you to confirm whether it's a venous leak. If it is a venous leak, my only recommendation after all my research would be Dr. Hsu, but be prepared to spend some money. A cheap flight to Taiwan booked a month in advance will probably run about $1,000, and venous stripping surgery is $10,000. Oh, and Dr. Hsu now practices at China Medical University Hospital, which is in Taichung, Taiwan.

I'm going to try to get the surgery done within the next 2 months--it's a matter of coming up with the money.

Originally Posted By: mugwump1
Well first, don't panic, I very much doubt that you've suffered any permanent harm. Masturbation's physically harmless to the tissues, but it could be that with such frequency over a long period your body's just becoming less aroused by it. Maybe you need to cut down on it (perhaps make it a twice-weekly treat?) until your potency's restored. When it comes to a partner, all those jaded arousal centres should kick in afresh, so I think you'll be ok.


If it's a venous leak, it is permanent. Something's definitely wrong if he has had soft erections for 8 years.

I, too, hoped that a partner would change everything. Then, at 21, I lost my virginity but it changed nothing. Oh, I can get it up enough for penetrative sex, but often just barely.

For older men, ED is a difficult and extremely embarrassing issue. I invite everyone to think about having ED at age 20.


Edited by Grifter (07/07/09 03:07 AM)

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#10204 - 07/07/09 04:04 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: Grifter]
jiji Offline
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Registered: 04/10/09
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Grifter, as someone just a little older than you, the thought of suffering ED has never even crept into my mind. But your experience and davidjohnson's stand as a stark reminder that even we younger guys aren't immune to this humiliating disorder.

That was a very well-written and informative post. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were a physician (I only assume you aren't since you said you're 22. Maybe you're in med school? Or just very well read on the subject?)

I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to have ED at your age. I sure hope Dr. Hsu can help you. You'll have to let us know how it goes. I'll be praying for you.
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#10205 - 07/07/09 04:47 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: jiji]
Grifter Offline
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Registered: 01/21/09
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Thanks for your kind support, jiji.

I'm no med student, but unfortunately I'm better-read on the subject than many urologists even (mine had never heard of the reputable Geng-Long Hsu). I'll be sure to keep you updated. I've only got half the money I need for the surgery, so I'm considering taking out a loan to finance the rest. It's unfortunate timing since I need to start paying back my federal educational loans very soon, but for me the issue can't really wait any longer, even if my girlfriend claims to be sexually satisfied.

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#10208 - 07/07/09 05:49 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: Grifter]
mugwump1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Grifter
If it's a venous leak, it is permanent. Something's definitely wrong if he has had soft erections for 8 years.

Thanks for all the info, and sorry to hear about your condition, Grifter - I wanted the OPer to try alternatives before resorting to a healthcare system which, as you've found, can be cruelly prohibitive in cost. I agree 8 years is an awfully long time for a "jaded" erectile response, but it seemed worth eliminating the alternatives before facing formal treatment. I hope you manage to get the funds to pay for your procedure: it's a terrible situation for people to be forced into.
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#11031 - 07/16/09 09:09 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: jiji]
Lou Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
Posts: 8
Loc: armenia
Nice work Grifter you have made a nice research!It is true that Dr.Hsu is the only one in the world who does the venous surgery so well and complete.He had studied penile anatomy in
fresh human cadavers and is able to ligate more veins than any other surgeon.I am an ED patientdue to venous leak for 2 years and i am 24 years old.you can imagine how hard it is..
Last summer i had a venous ligation surgery in Europe by a Europian surgeon and the result was worst than before..fuck him!Every day i was in the internet searcing and searching and thats how i find dr.Hsu.i mailed him and we were having correspondences and i decided to go there last month.we did to me the venous surgery which lasted 6 hours.it was not a pleasure feeling since local anestesia is not very strong.Now i am waiting for the results... since time is needed because tissue has to be recovered.If you have questions just ask.I feel glad to help other people with the same problem

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#11032 - 07/16/09 09:27 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: Lou]
mugwump1 Offline
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Good luck, Lou - sorry to hear about our European partners botching it. Hope all goes well from now on.
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#11033 - 07/16/09 09:55 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: mugwump1]
Lou Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
Posts: 8
Loc: armenia
thank you very much mugwump1.I hope so too..

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#13254 - 08/29/09 05:36 AM Re: I have been masturbating frequently [Re: Lou]
softglans Offline
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Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 29
Hi!
I'm 31 and have a similar condition: Post traumatic soft glans, from jelqing exercise, with decreased erection quality, poor morning erections, no spontaneous erections etc. It's clearly a leak from the glans into the deep dorsal vein (DDV), as when pushing on top of the penis when erect, the glans will keep close to normal pressure. I have not had any image study. I believe the general poor erection quality is a secondary effect.

I have scheduled an operation in Europe, Hamburg, with a clearly respectable specialist Prof.Dr.Harmut Porst, www.porst-hamburg.de (Also Chairman of the Standards Committee for Sexual Medicine of the International Society for Sexual Medicine). The operation will be an incision with ligation and 2cm resection of the DDV and SDV (superficial dorsal vein). Given a 30% long term success rate. Which is not too promising.

However, with researching on Dr.Geng-Long Hsu, I must admit his dedication, focus and experience with venous stripping, seems second to none, as far as the internet research seems to indicate. I'm considering now to plan an operation with Dr.Hsu instead, with hopes of having higher chance of good long term results.

As far as I know, this is the only forum thread (anywhere) discussing Dr.Geng-Long Hsu's methods (?). So I'm sharing my situation here and will keep it updated, for the benefit of all of us with similar problems.

Girther; wish you the very best for your operation. And Lou; Hope you are recovering well. It would be very interesting to hear more on how you are progressing after surgery.


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